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pseudorealityx said:
You don't say how cold is it outside.
You don't say how warm do you want it inside.
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It is neither very cold nor very hot here. 90 is hot...30 is COLD. Most of the time it is above freezing but there are a few days every year that don't thaw out. I would like to keep it about 60-65 in the winter and 70 in the summer. I would also like to keep it at least 50 degrees when I'm not there.
pseudorealityx said:
With ANY heat pump, you really want to have an auxiliary strip heater in the fan coil unit, as that heat pump is going to go into defrost mode when it's cold.
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What do you mean by "defrost mode"? If I had to get a backup electric heater for the coldest days I wouldn't have much of a problem with that.
Highbeam said:
That bucks will get you natural gas. It's not fo' nuttin. That investment adds at least to the value of your building and allows you to use the cheapest fuel available which will keep on saving you money year after year.
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The problem with that is I still wouldn't have A/C. Our climate is not very extreme but I am very intolerant of high/low temps. I don't know how long I'm going to be here, but not forever...I lease the place. I also do not want to pay the monthly connection fee for gas during the spring/summer/fall. (probably extra high for "commercial" use)
Bib Overalls said:
I would not buy a used system. The efficiency of the newer systems will have a fast payback. The unit cost is only part of the equation. You will need duct work and wiring.
Have you talked to a supervisor at the gas company?
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This is the heat pump I was thinking about for $969. Air handlers look like about $3-500.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOODMAN-13-...?pt=Air_Conditioner&hash=item1c2abb
I didn't think I would need any duct work...just let the air come out of the air handler, sort of the way the gas unit heater works. I might have to use some fans around the shop but I do that anyway.
I've tried talking to the gas company about a dozen times, they won't budge. (even though they can't come up with a good reason why my shop is "commercial", besides the location. It's for personal use.)
I thought about trying to use propane in the existing heater but I don't have a place to put the tank.
If I haven't forgotten any heaters, I calculate about 22,000 BTU I used last year. That would raise the temperature by about 1 degree per hour. Seems like maybe 36k BTU would be enough (just barely) if I kept it at around 50 degrees when I'm not there?
It is neither very cold nor very hot here. 90 is hot...30 is COLD. Most of the time it is above freezing but there are a few days every year that don't thaw out. I would like to keep it about 60-65 in the winter and 70 in the summer. I would also like to keep it at least 50 degrees when I'm not there.What do you mean by "defrost mode"? If I had to get a backup electric heater for the coldest days I wouldn't have much of a problem with that.The problem with that is I still wouldn't have A/C. Our climate is not very extreme but I am very intolerant of high/low temps. I don't know how long I'm going to be here, but not forever...I lease the place. I also do not want to pay the monthly connection fee for gas during the spring/summer/fall. (probably extra high for "commercial" use)This is the heat pump I was thinking about for $969. Air handlers look like about $3-500.I didn't think I would need any duct work...just let the air come out of the air handler, sort of the way the gas unit heater works. I might have to use some fans around the shop but I do that anyway.I've tried talking to the gas company about a dozen times, they won't budge. (even though they can't come up with a good reason why my shop is "commercial", besides the location. It's for personal use.)I thought about trying to use propane in the existing heater but I don't have a place to put the tank.If I haven't forgotten any heaters, I calculate about 22,000 BTU I used last year. That would raise the temperature by about 1 degree per hour. Seems like maybe 36k BTU would be enough (just barely) if I kept it at around 50 degrees when I'm not there?
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